You know, fight reaction, reaction flight. And so by this activating the parasympathetic, by merging the feeling and thinking faculties within your body, it balances you. And that’s, and that’s the beauty of life.

Cause if you can get balanced. And one of my favorite quotes of all time is a quote by a man named Paul Twichell. Thinking without feeling brings about woes and feeling without thinking brings grief.

That, that means if you if you like Hamlet, a woe is me, you know, he’s consternated and thought that’s cause he’s, he’s just all in his mind. He needs to get in touch with his body and feel and get connected. And if you’re, if you’re grieving something, it’s because, you know, the only reason you’re grieving is because you think your world is ending because of it’s all mental, what you need a structure, mental structure to let you know that it’s not the end of the world.

It’s just an experience. It’s just an experience. And then in time and space are just actually a myth.

There is no time and space. There’s only the now there’s only you. And it’s, it’s and, but you know, people believe what they want to believe, and they don’t believe what they don’t want to believe.

And that’s a quote by Dr. Andrew Weil. He was giving a talk to a group of doctors and he, he said that, or, you know, because doctors are taught in medical school, this is just one example that a certain drug will help a certain condition. Now, later on, 10 years later, it’s proven that the drug has no effect on helping that condition, but the doctors continue to prescribe it.

And this it’s like, why do you, you know, it’s like, cause they believe what they want to believe and they don’t believe what they don’t want to believe. Now that’s all of us, me, me too. And so, you know, my belief is that I don’t want, I don’t believe in anything.

As a matter of fact, I don’t not believe there’s, there’s nothing I don’t believe. And there’s nothing I believe because every time you’re for or against anything, you, you lock yourself into duality. And when you’re locked in duality, then you exile yourself from a state of freedom that could be yours.

So the Relax Sauna helps you realize these things because it gets you mellow. It gets you connected with yourself. It gets you into a state where you can just be with you.

Being in the Relax Sauna, according to the, those in Taiwan is like being in the presence of a Qigong master. You’ve all heard of the hot springs in Southern Japan, where warriors in ancient days would go after battle to get healed. The, the, the Relax Sauna was created because a Japanese company said to this Taiwan company that makes the manufacturers, the Relax Sauna, and took 10 years to figure out how to do it.

Can you make an electrical machine that brings to this earth, to this planet, the energy that people experience when they go to these hot springs? So whether you call it a Qi energy or whatever, they, they had an aha. And I don’t even think the company that makes the Relax Sauna realizes what aha they had, but you know, it’s like they either had spiritual masters or angels or someone helping them and the discovery that they made to create the Relax Sauna to differentiate between any other sauna out there, I believe is as big as the jump for the Relax Sauna. From Edison to Tesla, there’s a huge, huge, something, something that comes out of that sauna I’ve not experienced in any other sauna.

And some of the other saunas are very, very nice. You know, no question about it because you can go on the internet and find a hundred different saunas that people say I really like, but I have a whole lot of people who’ve been in other saunas and say, I’ve been into 10 different wooden saunas. There’s nothing that makes me feel better.

This is my favorite sauna. Well, it is dry, but the water, it has a communication with your water cells. It pulsates them.

Yeah. And it’s one lady at a conference, she says, where’s the water coming from? It’s that you, it’s coming from you. And it’s, you know, we had Karen Russell.

She was a gerontologist. She works with older people, helping them become healthy. And this is in 2007.

She was at a medical conference that I was at, and she was talking to Dr. Doris Rapp, who I’ve known for a long word, long time. And she wrote a book called Our Toxic World. It’s a wonderful book.

She’s a, she’s a children’s medical doctor who at one time was normal. And then, and then, you know, you become not normal when you find out about alternative medicine. So in that sense, but so she’s been for 20, 30, 40, 50 years promoting alternative medicine and doctors and how to treat children.

So she said to Karen Russell, go see Phil. I think he’s got a sauna you can use. So she got one in two months.

She wrote to the company. She says, I’ve had heavy metal toxicity for two and a half years. My blood reports came back for the first time.

I don’t have, you know, my, my mercury in my letter normal for the first time in two and a half years. And I feel so much better. I lost 65% of my cellulite.

My skin looks really, really pretty and beautiful skin. I mean, I, again, I’d be rich if I had a dollar for every person told me how pretty their skin looked after using the Relax Sauna. And one man in Connecticut had psoriasis real bad.

And he said it went all away in about six weeks. He said a little bit came back. It’s not a cure all because sometimes there’s emotional, God knows what kind of problems we have deep inside.

You know, the massage therapist says, do you have any issues in your tissues? And, and so, you know, what it is, it’s, it’s the depth, it’s the depth, it’s the depth it’s, I can give you information and, and you, and it can be true, but you have to realize the depth of it. You know, I, in other words, I can’t prove anything to you. Even, even if you can follow a mathematical geometric proof on how to get from where to where, if you don’t see the picture of it, you don’t get it.

And so in, in, when we’re talking in this language, unless you have the experience and, and, you know, like the depth of understanding a particular, like the secrets of the moon. I mean, you may uncover like all of, all of Plato’s writings are written, he says, or someone said on like seven different levels. And so you can understand something on one level and think you understand it.

And then all of a sudden, two years later, after you go through hell and you read it, oh, wow, a whole new level of understanding. See that there’s no, no matter who you are on this planet, even the great saviors, the great, you know, the great beings who’ve come to this planet to, to help souls realize who they are. They is always a plus factor in their spiritual growth.

There’s always a plus factor. See, and I thought at one time, well, he’s perfect. Well, what if you were perfect? Then life wouldn’t be any fun.

There’d be no challenge. See, so there’s always a plus factor. And when from this world, you go to another world and another world, it’s, there’s, there’s no, you know, and as a matter of fact, it’s, it’s, there is no beginning and there is no ending.

There’s only the, the eternal now there’s only now all this, you know, reincarnation is extremely clumsy way of explaining that everything’s happening at the same time. It’s all happening now. This is sort of brought out in the, in the movie, the peaceful warrior, Dan Millman’s movie.

There’s a scene of that. So nothing’s happening now, but, but basically, and again, you know, I’ve had some wonderful experiences. I’m not there yet.

And in a sense, it’s funny. You it’s, it’s almost impossible to be there, but at the same time, it’s the duality you are, and you’re not, and, and the duality of everything is beautiful. It’s like, you know, when you realize you are it, and at the same time, you’re not it, it’s, it’s, it’s like, can you live in, see, we live in two worlds.

Did you know that you live in two worlds? You all have your inner world. You live in, that is the world you live in. That’s the world where you find freedom.

And then we all share this outer world. It’s so weird. The truth is so stranger than, than fiction could ever be, you know, that, and you have to have a sense of humor and that sense of irony, you have to laugh because if you didn’t laugh, you would cry.

See, you just have to laugh at the craziness of all the shenanigans we have to go through to get, to get to where we are. So now I’m going to talk more about Farr and Frederick energy. I get off on tangents.

I have fun because I like to weave everything in. This is when I’m at my, my best because there’s a little bit of structure there, but, but, but not enough to tie me in. But the, the Far Infrared energy, I explained the three things.

It’s speed of light. It goes through clothes and it’s reflected by a mirror. And that’s why that sauna works so well.

And those are the principles of it because people don’t understand it. The Taiwan, this is made in Taiwan. 94% of the world’s semiconductor chips are made in Taiwan.

It’s a computer program like a, like a, like a computer. If it didn’t have a fan, it wouldn’t stay on. It would get too hot.

The chips get hot. So the, so the chips in there get hot and because they get hot, you have a fan, blow it off. So the chips, so continues to generate the energy and the Relax Sauna, you always have the Farr and Fred going always on other saunas.

If you have a temperature control and it goes off, then you have a period of time when there’s none going on. Okay. How do you feel? Great.

Any, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh huh. Um, maybe, uh, you just need some minerals.

It could be, you know, it’s like, uh, my wife would always be telling me, do minerals, do minerals, do minerals. And then every so often I would wake up with leg cramps. I said, okay, it’s time for me to do minerals.

You know, I think I’m getting most of my minerals out of my green juices and my drinks and all my supplements and my Chinese herbs, but yep. And so then I’ll take, I’ll start doing a, a mineral formula, you know, and, uh, yeah, a lot of times you do get some of the good minerals that leave too, but the main thing is you are getting the, uh, you know, good and bad, you are getting the heavy metals out, the lead, the mercury, the cadmium, the aluminum, all those things go out. And again, it’s, it’s, um, I was talking a little bit about EMF earlier about it being, you know, the, you know, it just, you know, uh, people, people are really, really concerned.

I mean, so many, when I go to these health conferences where people have been using saunas for years, I get the question, what about near infrared? What about full spectrum infrared? What about EMF? And, you know, and, and I just, I just have to get in the moment and love them anyway, and, and love the questions and love the attacks. It’s like pure far infrared ray is what, is what Sherry Rogers talks about in, in her book. There is so much research in far infrared ray energy.

If you go back and do the research and, and you find out that it helps the mitochondria create ATP and that creates nitric oxide, the man who probably has one of the, the, the best nitric oxide products in the marketplace has recently bought five saunas from me. And I asked him, well, does, does far infrared energy generate, you know, activate the mitochondria? He said, yes, yes. And he went on and explained it.

And yet, you know, people promoting the near infrared saunas and say, near infrared does this and far does not. And I said, wait a second. So again, it’s like, you know, people, you know, in the past you’d said, well, I know it’s true.

I read it in a book and now, oh, I know it’s true. I saw it on the internet. And so, but that’s what I was going back to again.

I don’t believe anything and there’s nothing I, I, I don’t believe. Okay. So in other words, like you go by your own experiences.

If you believe someone who says something, you know, it’s so easy just to believe them. They look like they know what they’re talking about, you know, and finally you just do, do your homework and do your research. Oh, good, good, good, right.

No, it’s, it’s like one and a half kilowatts, 1500 watts. So it usually, so if you do it for a whole hour, it’s one and a half kilowatts and usually kilowatts is 10, 11, 12, 15 cents an hour. Yeah.

So it’ll cost you 10 cents for a session, you know, maybe $4 a month. Yeah. Not much at all.

Yes. Yes. Uh, four times in my life I have joined gyms.

Not once did I exercise in the gym. I love saunas. I love sweating.

I used to sweat playing basketball. I used to sweat playing handball. I used to sweat playing baseball or softball.

I love sweating. It makes me feel so invigorated. So I joined gyms to sweat.

And when I saw, when I saw a cheaper sauna at a conference at a, at a medical spa conference to one of my suppliers who sells me massage tools, cause I’ve had a health food store since 1980 and I sell lots of massage tools. I, I’m, I was inducted into the world massage festival hall of fame for massage therapists. And I’ve, I’ve, I’ve never charged for a massage in my life, but I’ve promoted massage and that is the best massage tool in the world because it massages every cell in the body.

But I have about a hundred different massage tools that I sell. So I saw that sauna. I said, wow, I cannot believe you can have a sauna in your home.

Oh my gosh. Is this for real? I have to pinch myself, you know, one of those ahas. A year later, I finally decided I could afford it because I didn’t have much money back then.

And so I bought it and I used it for a year and loved it and loved it and loved it. I’d get in, I’d take the junky chair out and I’d sit in there. And after 55 minutes, I’d have a great sweat.

It took me 18 minutes to start sweating, almost like clockwork. And 55 minutes to have a sweat that I felt was good. Yes.

Yeah. However, I got a phone call from Taiwan and they said, our sauna is more advanced technologically and it works better than the one you’re selling on the internet. And I said, okay, how much is it? And we said, okay.

And they sent me one. And oh my gosh, the difference was incredible. And in this sauna, it takes me eight minutes max to sweat, this morning, three minutes.

As a matter of fact, I had a complete sweat in 12 minutes. And usually it takes me 15 to 18 to 20, maximum 22 minutes to have an incredible sweat. And you feel so much better than I did in the other one.

Yes. I personally will on spa day for Phil, I’ll do it for 18 to 20 minutes. I’ll drink water before I’ll get out.

I’ll drink some water. Three, four minutes later, I’ll go back in. Sometimes I’ll take a shower.

Usually not, not lately. And I’ll do another 15, 20 minutes sweat and have an incredible sweat and I’ll get out. And then I’ll, I’m surprised I’ll drink 16 ounce, usually 32 ounces of water, and then I’ll do it again.

And I call that spa day for Phil, because when I come back, I either meditate or go to sleep. And when I come back, I feel like I’m on top of the world. I can handle anything coming at me.

See, because you can handle the stress or you can handle, you’re in a state of no stress. So the more centered you are, the more you can handle things. The more you, you know how to respond.

See, respond comes from responsibility. When you react, you react out of ignorance, but you respond out of a, being in a responsible position. So, so when I was in the Relax Sauna, you know, for, for eight, for 18 minutes for a complete sweat, just a complete sweat, and, and then you also recognize that there’s, that your energy level is way different.

It’s like, it’s sort of magical. And so a lot of times people, I mean, we sell a lot of saunas to people who’ve had other saunas before. And I said, Hey, don’t feel guilty.

You paid your dues. I had to pay my dues by getting a cheaper sauna first that I loved. Some people said they throw them away.

They’re junkie. They don’t work. We had one lady, one man got a, uh, there’s a new sauna out that sells for seven, $800, you know, that has tourmaline discs in, and he ordered one of those and then saw ours.

And then he ordered ours and said, I’m just going to get them both because this one looks better. And he was in that other sauna for an hour and never sweated. And he says, it’s like a very costly paperweight and it costs him like a hundred dollars to ship it back.

And he said, you know, uh, the Relax Sauna works. And of course, some people will like the other saunas. You know, I’ve, one lady said, no, I liked, I liked my, my junkie sauna, but this one is night and day difference.

So, you know, it’s just, it’s just, I have learned in life that everything is good and, and everything has its place. And so, you know, I’m, I’m into promoting Far Infrared Ray energy. I’m into promoting vibrational healing and, and whatever, all the, all the more companies that come on the marketplace, it gives credibility for the benefit of Far Infrared Ray, and then, and then they just push us up higher where we’re become more credible and more, and then more and more people find out about the Relax Sauna.

So, so that’s sort of my approach toward it. Yeah. Uh, well, they, yeah, they, they won’t like, yeah, all that.

They won’t like your body. It’s like, uh, basically there’s a lady in Chicago. She has 70, 80 people with Lyme disease.

She has a protocol where she, she puts people in the Relax Sauna for 20 to 30 minutes, every four to six hours. And she does this for about a week. She lets them sleep for eight hours, but the Lyme spirochete, it, it procreates every six hours.

And so what, what, what has its babies or eggs are there. And so if you do it every four hours, you can kill them too. And then if you do it long enough and you, and she says she gets to increase the core temperature of the body to 104 and a half degrees.

And then all the symptoms, all the Lyme spirochetes die. And so this is her rendition of it. I know other people have used, you know, uh, the Relax Sauna with Lyme disease for, uh, you know, three or four times, you know, every day or four or five days.

And after a year, they don’t have any symptoms. One lady in, in Ohio, about an hour from Columbus, got a sauna about seven, eight years ago, and two weeks later wrote me a letter saying she has her life back. You know, she says, I cannot believe my cellulite is all melting.

Uh, the, uh, my mind is clear for the first time. I cannot believe what a difference it makes. And, you know, in two weeks, you know, having this, see again, sometimes at the right moment, that’s when you get into something and then it performed.

We had one lady come to me the, about four hours ago saying, I got this sauna from you two and a half years ago, and I just started using it three months ago. And I love it. I love it.

I love it. It’s, it has helped me so much. So again, it’s, it’s just the way it is, I guess.

Well, no, she does it for 20, 30 minutes every four hours. Yeah. So, so not for four hours.

As a matter of fact, the only person I know who’s gone more than four hours in the Relax Sauna is me. And I did it about three, four weeks ago. I would go in and out for five hours.

I used 14 towels, drank six quarts of water. That’s after I ate too much the night before. I mean, yes, yes, yes.

Ultra, ultraviolet light. Like I think about three to 10% of the sun’s energy is ultraviolet light. 40% is visible light.

And I think 50% is infrared, which includes near, mid and far. I think about 15% of that energy is far infrared, ray energy, or does anyone else want, oh, you’re getting in good. Um, yes.

Okay. Yes. Yes.

Okay. Well, this is a brand new sauna and like sometimes you get a new car and there’s a new car smell and it usually goes away in like an hour or so. It’s a rarity.

It’s a rarity. It usually doesn’t happen. And, uh, people, there’s no plastic in the sauna.

There’s no vinyl. It’s, it’s made with nylon. There’s nylon on both sides.

And there’s a, a, a batted layer of, of organic cotton in the middle. I believe it’s organic. And then it’s coated with a special kind of silver.

And so it’s just silver and nylon. And the same company that makes this for the Relax Sauna Company makes the spacesuits for NASA and it’s a company in Taiwan. And that’s why it looks so sort of space age.

That’s silver, real silver. It’s not aluminum. Yes, that’s, that’s, that’s to make it a mirror.

Now, Far Infrared goes through clothes. So therefore it goes to the blue nylon. It goes to the little bit of cotton and go, and then hits the silver.

And then bounces. Yeah. On the bottom of the sauna.

Yes. Well, yes, it shines and hits like, for example, suppose it’s 179.179.9 degrees. And so it’s a little off, so it creates a little bit of an angle.

So, so at 186,000 miles a second, that won’t take more than half a second to be basically a light box. And, and, and the light in the Relax Sauna, because there’s more Far Infrared Ray is about eight to 10 times brighter than any portable sauna. And about four times brighter than any wooden sauna.

Now the wooden saunas don’t reflect it and neither do it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes, sure. Right. Uh-huh.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Right. Yes. And how did that feel? Did you, did you enjoy it? Yeah.

That’s because the water’s coming out of your body. It’s, it’s getting, yeah. Yeah.

Well, no, not actually what it is, is, is this company is able to manufacture a semiconductor chip and a semiconductor chip, according to the semiconductor chip mathematician that I met at an extraordinary technology conference says it allows no wiggle room. So all the energy we filter out all the near infrared, we filter out all the mid infrared. So that’s pretty much about 98% pure foreign Fred.

And my belief is the 98% pure far-infrared, the more Far Infrared Ray, the more you have the humidness because the, because the water cells pulsate, okay. Water cells vibrate and generate Far Infrared energy at eight microns. Humans vibrate and, and Far Infrared energy at 9.4 microns.

Now, if I would shine a two micron light at you, it would not have any effect on the water cells or your cells in the body. But if I would do a nine, you know, micron light at you, it would resonate. Just like if you put your hands together like this, you can feel a pulsating.

And that’s what happens. You can feel the pulsating. So the stronger you have of the foreign Fred, and the more you have of it, this is 1500 Watts of 98% pure Far Infrared Ray.

That’s 1470 Watts of Far Infrared Ray energy. Now you compare that to a 1000 watt portable sauna that has 36% because they got carbon panels, or you take one of the tourmaline saunas that degenerate about 18%. And so the, the tourmaline sauna would maybe have 180 Watts of Far Infrared Ray and the carbon one would have 360 Watts.

And this has 1470 Watts. The mirror, the sauna tent acts as a mirror. So there’s no panels to generate any EMF.

Well, there’s no, absolutely no EMF because there’s no electricity. And that’s above the calves, above the calves. There’s no electricity.

Now you do have the panels, you do have the radiators there. And that’s about one sixth of the amount of a Vitamix blender or a green power juicer. Yes.

Yes, sure. Yes. Well, again, you know, like, have you ever used an electric massager? Like we, we used to sell double head massagers and people love it.

There’s a tiny little bit of EMF, but the pleasure the massage tool does for getting rid of the stress is 20 times the little bit of, of negativity caused by the electrical energy. So the same thing with a sauna that this is actually far infrared ray energy antidotes. It antidotes EMF.

That means if you are sick, like Dr. Sherry Rogers’s patients and have been exposed to cell phones and Wi-Fi and, and smart meters and towers.