All right, welcome everyone. This is David Morgan of the MorganReport.com and I have a special guest Phil Wilson and I say special because this is out of my norm and my norm means financial markets, gold, silver, resource stocks, economy, Federal Reserve, all that stuff. This is something that’s really, really important to me and anyone that is a premium member, a paid member of Morgan Report knows this because from day one till now for almost 25 years, I’ve signed off every issue with the following, wishing you health above wealth, wisdom beyond knowledge.

Until next time, David Morgan. And the reason I did that is several fold, but the old adage that a man or woman, person that has their health is richer than any king. And without going too in-depth and I haven’t done, I’ve done this maybe twice in the 20 plus years I’ve been on internet interviews.

I very seldom touch this topic, but I’m going to because it sets the scene for why I have such a strong belief in what I just said. My father was introduced into the Southern phone market about years truly, really early on. He was a working man, engineer, made I guess an above average living, but he made a living.

But with that investment, he did very, very well. You can imagine what the cellular phone industry was. If you got in very early, it’d be like getting in on Bitcoin or it was a buck or something like that.

I mean, that might be exaggerating slightly, but it’s very lucrative. So his dream was to live in Lake Tahoe and ski out the rest of his life. And he moved to Lake Tahoe, built a very impressive living quarters, remarried and everything was about as perfect in the human experience as you can believe.

And he lived there for just a few months and he had a auto accident with the truck and he was paralyzed in the neck down. So he’d never ski again. And he lasted a little over a year and he’s gone.

And so that brought me into full focus with my attitudes and perceptions about money. And it really solidified me for the rest of my life that money is important. And I teach about it and I help others to earn money and preserve money and all that you know.

But my dad would have given up every penny he made in the cellular phone investment to be able to walk again. And I know that and you know that. So I know it was a long introduction, but I want people to know that I’m fairly well known by my viewers to be a sincere man.

And Phil, I met at the latest Red Pill in Salt Lake City. Business owner, I always like dealing with the business owners because we’ve been pulled through the knothole. You know, it’s not as smooth and easy as a lot of people think to have your own business.

There’s trial and error learning. You’re always trying to improve and you have your ups and downs. But regardless, Phil just said, why don’t you jump in there? And Phil, I’ve already got a son and I don’t want to talk too much about the other brand.

But I got in it. I felt better, which I knew I would. Had a conversation and Phil was extremely good to me.

And I’m sure he is to everyone. Explaining what this one did that the other one didn’t and why it was really nice to have something that was instant on. That’s one of the main features that me as a non-scientist thinks about.

You know, the other one, I’d have to turn it on and wait 20, 25 minutes and then I get distracted and it wasn’t warm enough, blah, blah. This one takes like a minute and a half. I mean, you turn it on, you get in it and go.

And I’m type A. I mean, I don’t like waiting stuff. So Phil, I know I talked off your ear and probably the viewers and hopefully if they’re still with us, tell me about how you got started in infrared science. Well, I got into fasting in 1971 after I had an experience and my body chemistry was changed.

And so I realized that if I wanted to be creative, so I have a degree in mathematics and four years of graduate school studying the history and philosophy of mathematics. So I was always a problem solver into being creative all the time or wanting to be creative. And so what happened is getting into fasting.

I eventually got into herbs. I got into health foods. I got into massage tools.

I got into the holistic lifestyle and purifying the body was very, very important because if I was going to be creative and sit there, I needed to have my body clean. I used to drink four or five cups of coffee a day when I was a student at Indiana University studying mathematics. And when I got to graduate school, my body chemistry changed and I got into being quiet, listening to music and start really, really listening.

So I’m tuning into the energies of the world, the energies within myself. And so I opened up a health food store in 1980, sort of accidentally, it wasn’t my plan. And then I opened up a health food distributing business selling cutting edge green foods, medicinal mushrooms, spirulina, blue-green algae, chlorella, and all the superfoods you can imagine.

And I was doing this back in a business in 1980, 81, 83, 84. And I basically sold special unique products and massage tools and weird kind of wellness accessories like magnets and color therapy glasses. I was selling rebounders.

I was selling inversion devices. And so whatever kind of gadget, I was the gadget man. And so that’s what I was doing, selling to health food stores.

And then at one show, I was selling a massager, a Hitachi electric twin head massager to a group of dentists. And afterwards to a holistic dentist, there was a spa show. And I went to the spa show for one day to just check it out.

Maybe I want to have a booth there. And I ran into one of my massage tool suppliers who had a portable sauna there. I said, wow, I cannot believe you can have a sauna in your home.

This was like to me, ecstasy, because ever since I was 16 and I experienced saunas, the thrill of sitting there and sweating and feeling energized that each sweat drops off my body from all the shoulder, the back, whatever, the head, I just felt invigorated. I just loved the ideas of saunas. It was always from the word get going my life.

And I used to, I remember playing handball and basketball as a kid and softball and baseball. I love sweating. So, and Hippocrates, by the way, the father of modern medicine, that all medical doctors are supposed to take the Hippocratic oath.

Hippocrates said, find me a way to create sweat or fever and I will cure a disease. Hyperthermia or increasing body temperature is actually the fourth way to cure cancer. You can cut, you can poison, you can burn, or you can heat the body up.

And that’s what Hippocrates was talking about. Find a way to create fever in the body or raise the body temperature and it’ll kill all the stuff that’s not really that good for us. Like the parasites and the Lyme spirochetes and the cancer cells and the mold and the bacteria and the fungi.

Heating the body will also mobilize the lymphatic system, will get you super relaxed and it will increase the circulation, will help those with high blood pressure. Heating the body temperature is what Farr and Fritz saunas are all about. So at any rate, I saw the sauna there at the conference and I said, wow, this is when I was going, I was going through my Baroque period.

That’s before the classical period, but actually I was broke. I didn’t have a whole lot of money. So it took me about a year to finally afford to purchase the sauna.

And I did. And after another year, I got a call from Taiwan and they said, this is the Relax Sauna Company. And your website is prolific.

You’ve got, you go on and on, you’ve got the best educational website on saunas that we’ve seen in the United States. And we wanted to tell you about the Relax Sauna because the technology is far more advanced than any of the carbon panel saunas. And I listened and I said, okay, how much was the cost? And the cost was good.

So it arrived two days later, FedEx, International FedEx, and everyone at my store and my office and at my home, they said, this is a night and day difference because you got the instant on, but it wasn’t just the instant on, David, there was something a lot more. There was a feeling of great warmth and love and connection that you felt from the Relax Sauna that was sort of missing from the other saunas. Now it’s in other saunas, but, but like maybe one 10th or one fifth, the Relax Sauna actually feels like your, your loving grandma is giving you a big loving hug.

It feels like you’re connected to the divine, you’re basking in divine love. You’re in the presence of a, of a being who’s giving you unconditional love or you’re lying on the beach in Hawaii to cross between all four of those things at all. And it feels good and it’s different than other saunas.

Now I’m a, I’m a firm believer in all saunas and all certainly infrared saunas or far infrared saunas. There’s a lady named Dr. Sherry Rogers, and she wrote a book called Detoxify or Die. And this was, she wrote around 2001, 2002.

And this is, that’s her, that’s Dr. Sherry Rogers. And this is the name of the book, Detoxify or Die. And this book, she was an environmental medical doctor.

And this book spawned an industry for far infrared saunas because people who are left to dead by the medical establishment with chemical sensitivities, environmental problems, they, they, they, they made a way, they somehow found Dr. Sherry Rogers and she used far infrared saunas. These are the wooden saunas, the wood, but not the Finnish saunas. The Finnish saunas are great, but, but she called on page 208, she goes into real detail about the importance of the frequency of the energy and the fact that far infrared saunas, she called the superior sauna because they worked with energy medicine.

And the purpose of a far infrared sauna is to raise your body temperature by emitting a certain frequency that’s in harmony with our body and the water molecules. And so the water molecules resonate. Let me pause you there.

Yes. That’s great. But you know, a lot of my followers are aware of a lot of things.

And one is, you know, hit Tesla. If you understand frequency vibration and what’s the other one, you understand the universe. And I think that’s really important.

So I’d like you to just maybe take it, take a stab at it again, did a perfect job. Just, I want you to revivify what you just said, because there’s an important difference here. Well, I get hot in the other one and blah, blah, blah.

No, there’s a specific reason why you’ve got to hit the correct frequency to get the maximum benefit, right? Yes. We’re dealing with a frequency of light or energy medicine. Now the light is invisible, you know, just like dogs can hear a whistle that we can’t hear.

It’s a whistle that you can’t hear. And snakes can actually see far infrared energy. That’s how they catch their prey at night.

The mice, the frogs, the whatever they catch, they can see the far infrared light. And it may be a little bit of a stretch here, but we were at a show and there was a lady who was a animal communicator and she had two healing snakes with her. So we have a 26 minute interview on YouTube of the snakes being interviewed about how much they liked the Relax Sauna.

And we’re the only sauna that has interviewed snakes who give it a thumbs up. They said it’s a whole lot better than the light in their cage. You know, they really liked it a lot.

Anyway, that’s on our YouTube channel somewhere on all our videos, a 26 minute video with snakes. But the frequency of energy that we can’t see, but see, it’s like in seventh or eighth grade, I like to jokingly say, they did not teach you that far infrared light is a light. So the speed of it is 186,000 miles a second.

They didn’t tell you that it goes through clothes. And they didn’t tell you that even though it’s invisible, it’s reflected by a mirror. Now, if I go like this, you’ll see the Relax Sauna.

I guess I’m not sure if it’s to my right or my left, depending upon when you’re looking at it. Your left, yes. And there’s a little yellow towel on the chair, I guess the chair back fell down, but it’s supposed to be up.

But that’s silver, and the silver acts as a mirror. So the reason the Relax Sauna isn’t eight or $9,000, but it only sells for 2000. And the internet price is 1500 for the silver sauna.

The black one is 2100 on the internet. But the reason it doesn’t sell for eight or 9,000, because it’s priceless. And what it does is far superior, and more effective and more therapeutic than any $5,000, $6,000 wooden sauna.

And sometimes that’s a stretch for people to believe. But we’ll go into that later in the next hour or so on some people and what they’ve said about comparing the Relax Sauna with the wooden saunas, which are excellent. So basically, we have two radiators in front that you can’t see.

They sort of like they’re bigger versions of this. This is the table lamp. But those are the semiconductor chips, and there’s 20 semiconductor chips in each of the two radiators of the double radiator, right at the front, right before the chair on the sauna.

And they generate a frequency of light that that’s the same frequency as water, that’s the same frequency as our body. And then it hits the wall, it goes to the clothes, the blue, the blue, and then hits the silver and bounces. And it’s like, if in billiards, if it’s 179 degree angle, then within 186,000 miles a second, there’s going to be a light, it’s going to be a light box, you’re going to be an invisible light box, it’s very bright.

And to express the fact that that we give you more of the active ingredient, the loving light, this is about nine times brighter than than the light in any other wooden sauna or any other portable infrared sauna, if that’s, you know, fair to say, but of course, we can’t see the light. But it’s about nine times more energy. And that’s why a lot of people will say that the Relax Sauna is the most therapeutic sauna.

Because as you said, it works instantly. But when you get a complete sweat in 20 minutes, is that what you’ve experienced? Or how is your? Yeah, exactly. And you know, I have to laugh.

It’s not funny, but Relax Sauna, because there’s lots of reasons I wanted one. But this one, it’s almost every time and I’m type A, I mean, I am a high rev. And I get in there for my 20-25 minutes, and I haven’t gone longer than that, that seems to be more than sufficient for me.

And I just feel like no matter how I went in attitude wise, when I come out, I’m relaxed. And I go in there pretty stressed sometimes. Yeah.

And you know, and it’s the name and you know, Relax Saunas, but it didn’t dawn on me to actually do the interview. That’s really the right name. Because I come out and I’m drained.

I’m actually energized, but I’m in you know, that state that we all like to be in kind of like the zone. I feel alert, but calm at the same time. There was a young man at a cancer conference we did in Reno, Nevada about eight years ago.

And he would he would drive 45 minutes across LA twice a week to use his parents sauna. They have a wooden infrared sauna. And it would take him 45 minutes to do a good sweat, and he would come out exhausted.

Well, he was at the show, and he brought his his gym shorts. He did a 25 minute sweat, 25 minutes only complete sweat more profuse than the 45 minutes in the wooden sauna. And he came out feeling like you say invigorated.

And it’s like an oxymoron for a lot of people said, I don’t understand it. I feel relaxed. And I feel energized at the same time.

Well, you know, as a as a, I jokingly call myself a coffee addict. You know, from age 12 to 22. I drank coffee I started because I was allergic to chocolate.

And so I started and then by the time I was in, in college studying mathematics, I was drinking four or five cups of coffee a day. That’s what mathematicians do. You know, like, like, you know, snakes like scorpion sting.

That’s what they do. So it’s mathematicians drink coffee, and to stay awake and to stay alert. And I just I just couldn’t I had an out of body experience.

It was a realization in 1970. I was going through some emotional trauma and, and, you know, my whole body chemistry started changing after that. And so all of a sudden, the nervous energy of coffee, I couldn’t handle it.

It’s just, it’s just, I didn’t like it. And I got into being calm and relaxed. And I started, I started, I started unconsciously meditating, and just listening, list sitting still.

And then all of a sudden, I noticed, gee, I’m hearing the music instead of listening to music. It’s, it’s I would just so all I do is focus on centering. And the Relax Sauna is amazing, because it almost feels like you’re basking in divine love.

It almost is like when I meditate, and I go into the space, and everything is tingling, and you, you feel every your whole body vibrating. And you feel the cleansing, the pure, the spiritual purification, the cleansing of your body. And, and, and I even have a word for it’s called dross.

It’s in the Christian Bible, the Hindus talk about it, the yogis talk about it. It’s mental and emotional garbage that you don’t even know that’s there. That’s, that’s like a film or a surface.

And it just dissipates. And all of a sudden, you feel so much clarity, like that’s the invigoration that you’re feeling, because it gives you mental clarity, because it, it gets the, the the dirt on the mind and the dirt on the emotions, just like the physical toxins, they all leave it cleanses and purifies. And that purification, again, is based on the fact that we give you more of the active ingredient you’re now you’re familiar with the turmeric, right? The turmeric is is they use it in India, and it’s it’s a cleansing herb, and it’s good for pain, and it has a lot of benefits.

And curcumin is the active ingredient. So if you buy a turmeric formula that has turmeric in it, and then they have the turmeric tea, and they, they, they, they get all the water out, they get the extract of it, they put that in. So you’ve got more of the curcumin in the turmeric, and it’s going to be more effective for helping your body.

Well, in it took the Relax Sauna company in Taiwan, this is made in Taiwan, not China. It took them 10 years to figure out how to how to create the semiconductor chips. There’s a close up of it.

The semiconductor chips, and what they do, they, they filter out the electrical energy and only give you the frequency that between four and 14 microns. And that’s what Dr. Sherry Rogers says in her book, on page 208, between four and 14 microns, that’s, that’s the energy that resonates with water, because water is a far infrared molecule that generates everything shines, Tesla, you know, everything shines and vibrates. And, and we are light beams, and we shine and we vibrate as all the mammals and birds 9.4 microns is the frequency that we resonate at that we shine, and the water is eight.

So it’s, it’s if you just sit back and, and, and, and absorb what I’m saying, if I give you the same frequency that you are, and you’re not going to notice it, you’re not going to, you’re not, you’re not going to reject it. It’s the same energy as you. So it’s, you’re not going to know it’s different from you.

So it’s going to you and become one, you’re going to meld with it’s like the, the, the, the wave becomes a wavicle becomes a particle. And so the energy of your body is going to become intertwined with the energy of the Relax Sauna, you’re going to resonate. And so that’s why the Relax Sauna energy more so than others.

But this is, there’s a little bit of this energy, like 36 or 50% of it, and all the other infrared saunas, and they work. And people get excited about it. Because if you don’t have a bicycle or a car, and you’re in the grocery store is four miles away, you get so excited when you when you find these little Amazon saunas, because they help you.

And that’s like getting a bicycle and the bicycle you rave about it because it gets you but once you see the Relax Sauna, like the Mercedes, and you experience that, then the bicycle doesn’t seem so good. It’s like that’s what you were talking about. You had another, I think, a 900 $1,100 portable sauna that didn’t that that you had for four years and hardly use.

Is that right? Yeah. And so what what we do is we give you the same exact frequency of light. And so it resonates stronger with you.

And thus, it increases your body temperature more. Now there’s a study that was done on reddit.com just by this one individual. And this is in 2017.

And what he did is he he just tested an Amazon sauna for $250 and said, he did a lot of research and the research on the wooden infrared sauna said, Wow, I can’t believe these wooden saunas can do this. This is incredible. Can I get a cheap portable sauna, they’ll do the same thing.

And he tested it tested the body temperature. He tested the heart rate variability. And it totally did not pass it failed totally to do the heart rate variability test he did on it.

The research said it would do and then he bought a $500 sauna from Amazon, touted to be one of the best and it again, it didn’t do anything for heart rate variability. And both saunas only increased the body temperature a half a degree. So what what he did is he said, Okay, let me check out the Relax Sauna, he bought the Relax Sauna.

It not only did increase body temperature 3.2 degrees in 25 minutes, but the heart rate variability test and all the about how it’s going to be healthy to the heart. It actually exceeded what the research set it to do. So you know, he was that I’m I he was into cold showers and cold showers on the Relax Sauna.

You know, and then he was I was as he was writing up this story for reddit.com. He says, I’m even more surprised because I did all this without with my head out. So he was he was quite impressed with the the benefits he was receiving. And he was scientifically measuring it as well as an amateur scientist.

Let’s go down that road a little further. Yeah, no, you got to be careful about making medical claims. But you can certainly state facts.

Yeah, I’d like you to just and we can spend two days on this. So I just prevail on you to pick two or three more from the health community, scientific community that have endorsed Relax Saunas. And then after you’ve accomplished that, just pick out maybe three or four testimonial types of you know, you’re just reporting what people told you.

And then we’ll move on from there. If that sounds good, Phil. Yes, we we have, we have a couple pages devoted to like doctors and we have 800 video testimonies on YouTube.

From people we’ve met at the 400 shows that we’ve done in the last 20 years, many of the medical doctor shows, of course, we met at the Red Pill Expo. And that’s one of my favorite conferences because people are so open to new ideas. They’re not locked into old beliefs.

They’re willing to, you know, to, to let an old belief go that, you know, you know, belief, by the way, is, is spelled B-E-L-I-E-F. The heart of every belief is a lie because beliefs are temporary. They get you to another place.

And then and then like believing in Santa Claus is probably good for some kids. But then afterwards, it interfered with their growth. And it’s time to go on.

So beliefs are temporary. And, and sometimes people, they get frozen in stone and people get locked in and they become enslaved by their beliefs. So when you get in the Relax Sauna, you feel a pressure, a very gentle pressure getting you into the present moment.

And this activates the parasympathetic nervous system. So when you when you get that’s why it’s called the Relax Sauna, you know, and I had this realization myself after selling the Relax Sauna for about eight years, I’m at a show and one lady gets out of the sauna and I say, well, how was that eight minute experience? She says, I feel relaxed. And the next lady, eight minutes later, well, how’d you feel? I feel relaxed.

And then the next lady, five minutes later, well, how do you feel? Relaxed. And then it hit me. Oh my God.

That’s why they call it the Relax Sauna. I just, I never put two and two together. You know, I was, I was, I was meditating many, many years ago.

And they were, they were what I’ve been meditating for 50 years. But sometimes I hear voices, you know, and stuff like that. And I see things.

But anyway, uh, I’m, I’m looking at this, uh, a volcano like structure and all of a sudden out pops a lottery ball with the word momentum on it. And I heard, I heard the word momentum. And because of what happened earlier, I said, oh my gosh, this is the name of my new, my new company’s name is momentum.

And I, I said, that’s a common name. I wanted something really unique and special. And then I heard a voice say, taking advantage of the moment.

And I said, wow, I never realized momentum came from the word moment. So again, these, these are, you know, like another realization I had is that the business school says, and this you’re in the money business, and this is, you know, uh, apropos to what you do as a profession, the purpose for starting a business, I realize is not to make money. It’s to give service and the by-product is profit.

And then with that profit, you can now give greater service and then make more profit and now give even greater service. And I call that a vital circle instead of a vicious circle. But anyway, going back to the Relax Sauna, um, we have, um, a page called RelaxSaunas.com slash superior.

And, and that’s, um, that’s, that’s what I say, okay, this has our brochures on it. Uh, it talks about, it’s got about 16 interviews from mainly doctors raving about what the Relax Sauna did for them. Uh, Dr. Roger Billika just gave me his second interview.

Uh, he used to be something like medical director for NASA for 10 years. He’s in, uh, Fort Collins, Colorado. And, uh, he’s not an oncologist, but a lot of his patients have cancer and he’s been, uh, promoting the Relax Sauna for about 10 or 15 years now.

I met him at a cancer conference and he says that some people are not sweaters, but once they start sweating, there’s a, there’s a marked difference in their healing journey. Once they, you know, because some people are not able to sweat. Uh, I, it’s sort of hard for me to conceive of because I’ve always been a sweater and I go in and, you know, I, I was like a duck to water with, with that other sauna.

And the other sauna that I had, I, it just didn’t get that hot. So I would take the chair out as like a little camping chair and I would sit on the floor and it would take me 55 minutes. It’d take me 18 minutes just to start sweating and 55 minutes for a good sweat.

And the Relax Sauna takes me eight minutes to sweat. It’s like clockwork, 22 minutes. I’m so hot that I, I want to get out.

So I have to unzip the zipper so I can, it took me eight years to learn how to do that because it’s, it’s the light, not the heat. It’s the light, not the heat. And I’m here after 20, I, because it’s got a 30 minute timer and, you know, we, we are humans, we’re, this is the way humans are.

It just appears to be. So after 22 minutes and I’m really hot and I’ve had a sweat, great sweat, but it’s still got eight minutes left on the timer. And so, so either you have to wiggle around and do all this and all, whatever, you know, and, and finally, after eight years, I said, wait a second, I’ll have to unzip the zipper.

And I was still continue to sweat profusely, but I was very comfortable heat wise because it’s not the heat, it’s a light. And I jokingly call our radiators are not heaters. I call them lighters, but I, I don’t tell that, you know, I have to say that they’re radiators because if you talk about lighters, people are going to look in their pocket.

You mean like this? I said, no, no. Is there a purpose for putting your feet on the radiators? No, no. Yeah.

Or not put them on there. Yeah. The purpose of putting your feet on the radiators is for comfort or for short women.

In other words, like you can put your feet right in the middle, in between the radiators, just, just as easily, just as easily. It works really, really good. And okay.

I’m, I’m 74, but I can still sit like in the yogi, in the, in the, in the yogi position and the half Lotus. That’s how I said, I sit on the chair 80% of the time because I can. And then, and then sometimes I put my, my, my two feet on the radiator caps on the right and the left and front.

And then sometimes I put them in the center. So we have three options basically of where to put your feet and you can even take, I mean, for the advanced, for the advanced on a person who’s limber, you can take the chair out and sit on the floor. Okay.

But if you do that, then you, you have to see the, how that’s erect and they’re, they’re being held up by poles. There are pools in here and that holds up the sun. Otherwise it’s going to do like that.

So the poles are on the radiator. And then, and then, and then what you do, you take the poles off and then you put the radiator facing up on the ceiling, but that’s, that’s the advanced course. And that’s for 5% of the people.

So we don’t want to distract. Most people sit on the chair and they’re very happy and the head sticks up and, and, you know, like a lot of people, you know, say, well, some people, there’s a, there’s a, there’s a man who has a compounding pharmacy for holistic health doctors in the Phoenix area. And he loves his wooden sauna.

And he, he bought one of the Relax Saunas for his company to, to have in their lunchroom. And then, and then where to show a couple of years later, and his wife who never uses the wooden sauna would be in our sauna four times every day. And she got the Relax Sauna.

Her husband got the Relax Sauna for her. And, and she uses it all the time. So a lot of times people, and like I was at a Louise Hayes conference about 15 years ago, and Dr. Christiane Northrup was in the sauna because she was one of the speakers.

And she gave a two minute interview to her people saying, I can’t believe how good this, the Relax Sauna heats up. I feel really, really wonderful. And what I really like about it in like, in like one minute, two minutes, I can’t believe how good it feels.

And what I really like about it, my hair doesn’t get messed up. So, you know, a lot of women say this is great because and I, and, and what’s really nice about the Relax Sauna is you don’t have to take your clothes off to have a good treatment. You can go in for five or seven minutes.

Like when I met you at the, at the Rentville Expo, you just got in for five or seven minutes. And I don’t know, did you feel anything then? Oh yeah. No, I did.

Definitely. Yeah. Yep.

And so a lot of people and about half the testimonies on our YouTube channel, you just search, you know, Relax Saunas on our YouTube or Relax Saunas testimonials. And, and you’ll, you know, half of them are people, my pain level was like 12 out of one to 10 or, or a seven or what, and it’s totally gone, whether it be carpal tunnel pain of five that they’ve had for five months constantly, you go into the Relax Sauna for seven minutes and it’s gone. Even Dr. Klinghardt, who’s a well-known holistic doctor, his partner was at the autism conference.

They both were. And she took the, the Relax Lie Down Sauna. We have a lie down sauna up to the hotel room.

And in one session, her elbow pain that she’d had for a year, totally gone, totally gone. And you know, I asked her in an interview that she gave me, she said, what about the EMF? She said, no, the EMF, there’s this, that doesn’t bother me at all. I feel great.

The lights, you know, the fluorescent lights are way worse, you know? And so people are concerned and it turns out that this, this is a microwave device. Some people call it a cell phone and EMF wise, this is a hundred times worse than, than any household appliance. And of the household appliances, the Relax Sauna is third and seventh lowest in giving off electrical EMF energy.

And it turns out that the research in Japan from a book that has not been translated from Japanese into English says that they have discovered that, that far infrared energy antidotes the, or undoes the damage done by a microwave. You know, cause a lot of people are concerned about microwaves. Let me stop you there.

So, you know, a lot of people yours truly included are concerned about this EMF, you know, dog tags. And, you know, I admit it, I’m almost addicted to this stupid thing. I mean, it’s a love hate relationship.

I mean, it saved me more than once with personal issues, like a tire blow out. And then of course, business wise, if I didn’t take that call in the airport, that deal wouldn’t happen. On the other hand, I feel like I’m just radiating my body with this bad electrical pollution all the time.

So could you go over that again? Is getting in the infrared sauna going to help someone like me that is on this damn thing too often? Well, first of all, you know, uh, I’ve, I’ve seen some videos recently to confirm it, but, you know, I used to put the cell phone up here and my ear would start hurting. So, so, and, and I, I avoid putting it there. I minimize the time I put it there.

Usually have it on speakerphone because that way it’s, it’s a way for me, you know, but it’s like one of the unnecessary evils of this world, you know, to function in this world, you know, that’s just the way it is. But the, uh, we have five people in Southern California and in Arizona who go into houses to make them safe EMF wise, you know, sometimes they, they also have little, little, little things they put on, you know, uh, just whatever it is, a little, a little patch or a cell phone or this, you know, but anyway, it’s, I think I have it inside my case, a little thing that, you know, sort of like adds protection, but they go into houses, then they make houses safe EMF wise. Uh, and they all have Relax Saunas in their homes that they use, you know, Dr. Klinghardt told me he uses the Relax Sauna all the time.

There are many, many people who are well-known in the holistic health community who are very concerned about EMF and like Dr. Belica, um, in that I spoke about earlier in Colorado, who has that, uh, Tri-Life clinic, uh, in Fort Collins, and he used to be the director for NASA, uh, says that he tested the Relax Sauna and it was clean. It was just totally clean with his EMF meter. And then, and then the one that you had had, he tested and it didn’t, it didn’t test as well.

It didn’t test very well at all. He said, yeah, for sure. The Relax Sauna also, it, it works, uh, it heats up so much quicker that you really loved it.

And he’s been selling the Relax Sauna for 10, 12 years, but we have a, a Dr. Akpinar, uh, he wrote this book, uh, no sweat, no sweat. Uh, you know, you know, you know how I finally figured out why, what that means is once you learn that sweat is your teacher and your healer, then life is no sweat. But anyway, there, there’s him over there.

Uh, he’s the one, um, with a golden shield. There’s another one here that I really like a lot that this is in the Amazon. He’s the guy, uh, pull the book up higher, higher.

There we go. Okay. There we go.

Can you see it? Got it now? Yep. Yeah. He’s the one that’s probably on your right.

My left in case you couldn’t tell which one was his daughter in the middle. But, but he, he basically studied the art of sweating, you know, about from every culture in the world, sweating has been an integral part of the healing process, whether it be the Roman baths, the Turkish baths, uh, the Russian spitzes, you know, or the, the, uh, sweat lodges. Yes.

You know, the Indian sweat lodges is, and, uh, now he, he talks in this book about another wood sauna infrared sauna. And then two years later, his, his business partner, Dr. James O’Nikian, who is the world champion kickboxer in the early two thousands, um, bought 10 saunas from us and gave him one night and day difference. You know, the Relax Sauna heats up instantly.

And Dr. Akpinar says, when he goes on the road with his sauna, he can’t, he can’t figure out how people can live their life without the Relax Sauna. It’s like, it’s, you know, I’ve had a couple people, you know, saying if, if there was ever a fire, I, first thing I would do is I’d grab my sauna, you know, and I had two people said that it’s like, you know, and, and there’s probably about a thousand people in this world right now, you know, who, who go in every morning. A lot of them maybe will go in and take the chair out and sit in the bottom and sweat.

Other people will just sit on the chair and it’s their daily routine, either in the morning or at night. Lately I’ve been doing at night, boy, I’ve been waking up feeling good. I said, oh, I usually do it in the morning because I wake up feeling bad and then I do it in the morning to feel good.

And it never dawned on me, gee, what if I did before I went to bed, which most people I think do it before they go to bed. And, and, uh, it varies for me. I, it’s, I have my own schedule.

It’s a pretty demanding schedule. Most of the time it’s just, Hey, I’ve got 30 minutes. All right.

Right. I mean, not having to take off all your clothes. I mean, you know, not to get too graphic.

There’s nothing graphic here. I mean, I keep getting my shorts on. Sometimes I go fully in.

I mean, maybe I take the blazer off, but most of the time lately I’ve just got down to my boxers and my t-shirt and it’s so easy, you know, it’s just easy. And then I usually allow time to shower down after that. And, um, I’ve not come out at one time yet, Phil, where I didn’t feel better than I did going in and I’d go in and sometimes pretty, pretty happy, pretty solid, but just that little more, you know, tuned up, relaxed, clear.

I love that when I call the zone, you know, when you’re in the zone, like at the red pill and I just, you know, I don’t wanna make this too much about me, but I’ll keep talking for a moment. So most of the time when I’m speaking, I’m in the zone because it’s from the head and the heart. And this is, you know, as you said, be of service.

So here’s what I’ve learned. You might not agree with it all, but this is from the head and heart. Here it is.

And I feel like I’m just in that place of, um, connectedness, you know, connected with the audience, connected with something higher and out it comes. And that’s what I’ll call the zone. Well, when I get in the infrared sauna and I get out, I feel like I’ve just, I’m in the middle of a speech or whatever.

I just feel like I’m connected and I am at peace, you know? So I don’t want to oversell it, but, uh, and there’s been, and I’ve taken saunas on and off. I’ve never made a real habit of it. And one of the years of my continually working out, there’s one in the gym, but you know, there’s somebody in there, or it’s not hot enough, or someone poured a bunch of water on the rocks and now it’s a steam room.

And you know, there’s all these things and nothing like having a personal one. I do want to make one more comment and turn it back over to you, Phil. But you know, when I got it, I was impressed with how tidy a little box came in.

And then of course, and you give you a carrying case and I really haven’t thought about, Oh, I’ll take it on the road, but you know, that’s the best time to have it because you know how stressful it is doing these 12 hour days, setting up your trade show booth and be there. So most people are nice, but it’s pretty damn demanding. And you know, if you’re a real salesperson, you might not have much of a lunch, you know, you might have something healthy, but you’re not leaving for an hour.

You’re going to be at your booth. Right. And, um, and I thought about, you know, maybe this next trip I’m doing in April, I will pack it up, you know, throw it in the car and take it with me because there’s it’s very easy to set up.

Well, and you can, you can, uh, actually, you know, it it’ll fit in a 28 inch suitcase without the chair. And then you still have 30 pounds to put your clothes in because it only weighs 18 pounds. And so, uh, it’s, it’s, it’s always in my hotel room.

And sometimes hotel rooms just are not that hot for me. You can’t, you know, they have a limit. You can’t get above 80 degrees.

And so, you know, I’m never cold in hotels anymore because, uh, I always take it on the road and, and, uh, it’s, um, that, you know, there’s one man and, uh, uh, Brian Clement, uh, would call up hotels and say, I can’t, I’ll stay at your hotel. If you have a sauna, you know, you know, I think, I think actually he’s taken the Relax Sauna now on, on a number of his trips or that’s what I hear. But the, um, the, the Relax Sauna is, is, oh my gosh.

Um, it it’s exciting because it does get you in the zone. And this is what I talk about. It activates the parasympathetic in a way that other saunas are not able to, I’m not sure why, but, but I think it’s because we give you so much more of the far infrared light that, that actually resonates with the water molecules.

We give you so much more of that, that increases the body temperature so much more and activates this parasympathetic. And that’s when you’re feeling the zone, you feel connected. And I’ve had a couple of people say my heart opened a great big shock.

And it’s sort of like, you know, wow, I’ve had, you know, two people on video tell me, tell me that, that that’s, you know, uh, how much, how much better they felt from doing it that way. They, they really, really, you know, liked it a lot. And it’s like, um, yeah, it’s, it’s, uh, I call it the cat’s meow because, because it really gets you to feel tuned in.

And this is why I call it the quote, the spiritual sauna, because, you know, once you’re tuned in and you’re, you feel creative. And so a lot of business people, they say, well, I can’t afford it. I say, you can’t afford not to, because you’re going to be more creative.

And then you’re going to make so many more sales because you’re in the moment and you’re not going to miss those opportunities because you’re going to be listening because you’re going to be mellow because you’re going to be tuned in. I want to take you down another road here for a moment. Sure.

And that is knowing, you know, having the, you know, similar age, and you know, there’s two things, there’s several things, but there’s two main things every year. One is I’m going to get my financial house in order. I’m going to make more money and save more money and invest better or whatever.

That’s one. And equal to that, or maybe bigger than that is I’m going to get healthy. I’m going to lose weight.

Yeah. And I know for years of going to be the gym rat and you know, you can’t get into gym January month of January. Everybody’s usually last a couple of months and then the regulars are there and everybody else is left.

Now you talk about weight loss in the sauna and I’m going to presume something. So just correct me if I’m wrong, but I know from my own, you know, I won’t say yo-yo dieting, but I’ve never stayed like as fit as I’d like to. And it does talk about weight loss in one of the brochures.

But my guess is that because your body will naturally adjust. So you start eating less, you lose weight, but you’re still eating less and kind of stop plateau. But with the infrared sauna, I imagine that it keeps your metabolism kind of tuned up so that your body’s kind of told, hey, keep going, baby.

Optimize, you know, my metabolism. Is that what happens with the sauna? Tell me why it’s beneficial to weight loss. Yeah, we have a, um, uh, there’s a, uh, Dr. Grighton or something like that, uh, says that, that sweating or being in a sauna, if you will, uh, it’s like 45 minutes in a cardiovascular workout or a four to six mile run, the amount of sweat you sweat in the Relax Sauna, well, is that’s what it’s like.

You get the benefit of, of that, of just being in a sauna. Uh, the, uh, the, the purpose of, of the Relax Sauna, you know, as, as we were talking about is, is to, you know, increase the body temperature. When you increase the body temperature, you’re going to mobilize the whole metabolism of the body.

You’re going to, you’re going to activate the immune system. You’re going to mobilize the lymphatic system to, to get the toxins out, the heavy metals, the glyphosates, the, uh, the plastics, the thylates, the chlorine, the dioxins, and, and all the fertilizers and all the chemicals and the hormones and the, uh, and the drugs that are, that are in the water, you drink that, that are subtle that you almost can’t get out. And, and it’s just going to totally cleanse and purify the body.

It activates the you’re going to sweat through the skin. You’re going to bypass the, um, you’re going to do the colon. You’re going to do the kidneys.

You’re going to get the toxins out of the body to, to a number of different ways. You’re going to increase the circulation. See a stagnant pond is, is a place where there’s a breeding ground for mosquitoes.

Well, you have stagnant areas of your body. We just do not get the circulation like neuropathy for people with diabetes. And, and I think that’s what you’re talking about that.

It’s already helped your feet tremendously. And I’d like to hear you say more about that, but the, the, um, the bloods, the circulation moving gets rid of the stagnant areas of the body, which can be breeding grounds for mold and bacteria and fungi. And so, uh, we have incredible success with mold toxicity.

We have incredible success with people with Lyme disease. We went to the Lyme conference about seven, eight years ago in Boston or wherever we went. Um, and we sold 43 Relax Saunas in one weekend because the doctors and the Lyme patients were there.

They would get in for five, seven minutes. And oh my gosh, we have 16 video testimonies on YouTube where people say their Lyme symptoms disappeared or were, or were greatly dissolved through using the Relax Sauna. One person said that in three weeks, 90% of his Lyme symptoms were gone in three weeks, you know, and we had a doctor who’s what, who was a naturopathic doctor.

His wife had Lyme and they had a Lyme literate doctor. And without the Relax Sauna, she could only get 75% better. She said, it’s time now you need to get a sauna.

So he bought the Relax Sauna and she was basically within months, 95% better and pretty much totally functionable. And then now she uses, you know, after a year, and this was about six, seven years ago. Um, but you know, after a year she would just use it.

She only needed to use it three times a week to be able to maintain functioning in this body, but Lyme disease, mold toxicity, um, you know, any, any, even MS, but, but certainly chronic pain, uh, it’ll nip a cold and a flu in the bud. And, and, you know, all I can say is that no matter what kind of ailment you have, you know, the Relax, like we tell doctors, this will enhance the effectiveness of your protocol. It will enhance it.

In other words, instead of them getting better in three days or three weeks, they’ll get better in one week, you know, or, or it, you know, anyone who’s, who’s had a cold or a flu recently in this last two, three years, or whatever you want to call it, the Relax Sauna has been a lifesaver for them. And probably literally, you know, it, it, it, it is something which, you know, I used to take hot baths a lot and I hardly do now because the sauna takes care of, care of me. And it’s, it’s one of my aces in the hole.

And, uh, there’s a guy, for example, in Connecticut, he had psoriasis real bad and in six weeks gone, he said a little bit came back because that’s how it works. But, you know, no matter what kind of skin problems, like doctor, there was a lady named Karen Russell, and this is in 2007. And she was at a conference, at a medical conference.

And she was talking to Dr. Doris Rapp, who wrote the book, Our Toxic World, who this was like, you know, she was a medical doctor, didn’t believe any of this stuff, and then experienced it and wrote this book. And for 2030 years, she’s been into holistic health. And there’s toxins in this world.

It’s just a toxic world. And 60 years ago, you did not need a Relax Sauna, you did not need a far infrared sauna, because the world was not that toxic and the Finnish saunas were fine. You know, and, and but now with the with the with the the influx of God knows what the world is doing or what you know, whether unconsciously or consciously, we live in a world that that and we need to cleanse, you know, a washing machine, cleans the inside and outside of the clothes with water, the water goes through the clothes and cleans every fiber.

So that’s how you can imagine the fire and for the light and the Relax Sauna, it goes through your body and cleanses every single cell of your body of the debris and deposits it. And you know, in the musical chairs, sometimes you just don’t have enough to get out. Well, you know, a lot of times you’ll you’ll take a detox formula from your naturopathic doctor from your medical doctor from the health food store or from a nutritionist, you’ll take that and then and then it it doesn’t get it all out because you need the oomph you need the oomph to get it out of the body and the Relax Sauna supplies that oomph.

And it’s such it’s so crucial when people don’t realize that no matter who you are, it’s like there’s a lady who she’s a colon hydrotherapist. And she she has a clinic in Portland, Oregon, and she has a hyperbaric clinic, where they do that in New Mexico and Taos. And she wrote this book she gives to her her clients.

And she said that, that far infrared sauna is absolutely necessary if you want to feel fabulous. And now for 10 years, she had been selling wooden infrared saunas and loving them. And she says, Oh, my gosh, you know, she says, I’ve been for 10 years, I would walk by the Relax Sauna booth at the colonic show.

And then finally, as a lark, she said, Oh, what the heck, I’ll get in. In three minutes, in three minutes, she was sold on it, she could feel the difference. She could feel the warm, she could feel the love.

It just it just envelops you like a big, big warm hug from your grandma, like I mentioned earlier. And, and she has helped us sell about 300 saunas since she has 15 pages on far infrared energy in the book. And she says the Relax Sauna is the most therapeutic sauna there is.

And she compares it to the you know, the other wooden saunas with the stereo system. She says, Yeah, I know your gut reaction. I know you’re feeling but believe me when you go on the Relax Sauna, it’s different.

And that that’s my hardest thing to do. I know I was telling you earlier a couple weeks ago, I met this guy at one of Dr. Paul Anderson’s his conference for medical doctors called advanced application for medical practice. And he used to teach at Bastyr College for 25 years.

And he had a had a cancer clinic in Washington State for a while. And he bought four Relax Saunas from us and he uses them in his clinic while doing IV therapy for the patients. He and the hand sticks out the hands.

Yeah, and and so anyway, you know, he sent me a two minute videos saying that they use the Relax Sauna, they’re able to increase body temperature to 101.5 or 1.9. And, and one of the people whose whose son had cancer, and he was led to Dr. Anderson and Dr. Anderson got the little boy all better. He was at the conference and he’s been a promoter of wooden saunas and said, well, the reason all the other portable saunas he’s looked at, you can’t sweat profusely, like in the wooden saunas, he says, you don’t increase body temperature. And I forgot the other thing, but he said, you know, the three things.

But, but then the Relax Sauna satisfied all those plus it started instantly and was a whole lot cheaper. So he did a webinar on me and he sold 120 saunas in five days from the webinar, because he gave especially gave $100 off. And, but basically, it’s like and he’d been using wooden saunas for years and, and he has recommended me to about four or five other individuals.

And there’s also a guy in Oregon, who’s who’s just talked to me today. And and people are recognizing that although the wooden infrared saunas are very good, very pretty and look beautiful, and are effective, the Relax Sauna is more effective, and works instantly quicker. And again, you could do it for five to seven minutes with your clothes on.

You can’t do that in the wooden saunas, because they take 20 minutes to heat up. Sure. Well, I’ve got another interview coming up.

So I’m going to turn it back over to you, Phil, it’s been fascinating, I can just learn more. So why don’t you go ahead and summarize anything that you want, make sure that you give our viewers ways to you know, learn more on your YouTube channel, your Momentum website, Relax Saunas website, whatever you want to hand out. And thank you for giving me your personal phone number, because I did have a few questions.

Right at the initiation. I forget what they are now. But you were kind enough to call and then early on, we said, you know, if this thing really works, you know, because I’m skeptical by nature, but I’m also open minded.

And it’s kind of a dichotomy, but I am. And, you know, looking back, and this sounds like a sales pitch, but it’s the truth. There was within the three minutes, you’re standing right in front of me talking to me, I did feel different.

And like, I’ve been on a lot of saunas, not, it’s not a regular habit for me, but the gym, you know, one of the condos that I go to, you know, and I love them, but gosh, what am I gonna do for these 20 minutes, while this thing heats up so I can use it, right? But I come in, I do something, come back and get loved it. There’s something about this one. And you’ve already explained it 10 times, that with the right frequency, you can feel it.

Now, I might not have known it, like I know it now in my head. But yeah, so let me turn it back over to you. Go ahead and give us a wrap up.

And we’re going to put this video on to our email list. Everyone that’s on our free letter, e-letter, will get this video. We’ll have a link so you can buy it.

And I’m pretty sure that off-air, Phil and I can make a deal where we’re going to get you a really good price because you are a member of The Morning Report. And so Phil, with all that said, I’m giving it back to you. Okay, good.

I wanted to mention that it took the Relax Sauna 10 years to figure out how to do this, to how to filter out the near-infrared energy, how to get it out, how to get the mid-infrared out, and how to get the far-infrared that didn’t resonate with your water molecules to only give you the 4 to 14 micron energy. And that’s what’s so special about the technology. It is patented.

And we were complimented the other day. Someone tried to buy 10 of our radiators to reverse engineer it. But I was telling you about Karen Russell.

She’s a gerontologist. And she’s the one that was talking to Doris Rapp. And I got off on a tangent.

But she had heavy metal poisoning with mercury and lead for two and a half years. For 30 months, her blood reports would come back, no, not good, not good at all. And so Doris Rapp said, go see Phil.

He can help you. Because I’d known Doris for about four or five years. I’d seen her at a lot of health conferences.

So she came over. She got the Relax Sauna. And within two months, or within one month, her blood report came back clean for the first time in 30 months.

The mercury and the lead were normal. She said she lost, I’m not sure, 37% of her body fat went from 38% to 22%. She lost all this weight.

I think she used some other herbal formulas too. But her skin looked gorgeous. And she lost 65% of her cellulite was gone.

And people would say how pretty her skin looked. So there are so many benefits when you cleanse and purify the body. And that’s the secret.

That’s the secret to cleanse and purify the body. And again, increasing body temperature and the Relax Sauna will increase body temperature significantly more than any other infrared sauna. So when I talk to people, and I live in Las Vegas, when I go to Phoenix, said, oh, I don’t need a sauna.

I go out into the heat. No. You know, going out in the heat, you don’t, it doesn’t get rid of your pain.

Doing an athletic workout and sweating like crazy doesn’t get rid of your pain. But the Dodgers, by the way, got three Relax Saunas from us the beginning of last year. And they used it throughout the whole 22 seasons when they won 111 games.

And we’re starting to be acknowledged. There’s a lot of professional athletes who are slowly learning that the Relax Sauna is different and more effective and more therapeutic than any of the other saunas. And it’s, it’s a process just with the health professionals, we have about four or 500 1000s 1000s, holistic health doctors, nutritional counselors, fitness, people, holistic doctors, functional medicine doctors, all promoting the Relax Sauna, because they have found that it works the best for them.

And like you said, you know, getting getting rid of the even with your clothes on and you feel it’s the feeling you get that distinguishes the Relax Sauna, we give you 98% loving light. That’s what I call the specific energy between four and 14. I call it loving light.

And, and the more loving light you have that you absorb into your body, you know, you know, by the way, far infrared goes to the sand and resonates with the water and turtle eggs and activates the turtle embryo to grow into a turtle. Otherwise, it would not hatch. So it’s like, you know, the fact there’s a lot of people are concerned about near infrared, and they say, well, they they see our near infrared’s good, but it’s a neuron for the lasers, which are very effective.

The near infrared light only penetrates one to two millimeters. And the farm for the light actually penetrates between 40 and 50 millimeters. But that’s a totally different technology hyperbaric oxygen, you know, near infrared light lasers, but but the far infrared sauna is unique from all the other devices that doctors use.

I was at the anti aging Expo in Las Vegas a couple weeks ago, I’ve been there for about eight years. But the far infrared sauna, the purpose of it is not just to get rid of pain and inflammation that that happens to a lot of people and losing weight. We had three different people have lost one lady, she was 250 pounds, she lost a pound a week for two years.

And two good friends of mine have each lost 70 to 100 pounds through using the Relax Sauna within less than a year. But the the the purpose of the Relax Sauna is to increase your body temperature. In other words, if Hippocrates is watching you in the Relax Sauna, he you know, he’s the one that said, find me a way to create sweat or fever, and I will cure disease.

And all of a sudden, you’re in the Relax Sauna for 15 minutes. He said, bingo, I can cure you now. And as soon as he says that he gets thrown into jail, because we’re not allowed to cure people.

All right, well, we’ve got a limited time right? Yes, yes, I understand. Give me any Relax Saunas.com. Number one, you want to go to Relax Saunas with a nest.com. Relax Saunas with a nest.com. And now and you’re after you’re going to give the discount. Yeah, yeah, well, this will be attached to the email, right? A slight blurb, right plane that I use it.

And here’s a link to purchase. And of course, some will some won’t. But here’s watch the video, you may, you know, if you’re not interested in buying it right now, there’ll be a time in your life where you will.

And I will promote it, you know, from time to time. Yeah. Because like I said, health is above wealth.

It really, really is. You know, you can have a lot of money, but not be gonna be that happy, you know, and to be able to step in there and step, you know, go step in and come out in the zone almost every time. But so far for me, I think it’s been every time.

That’s priceless. You know, if you could get that feeling without drugs or whatever, maybe, it’s like, it’s valuable to the human experience to feel good, to be healthy, to stay fit, and all those things. And this is, you know, I do a lot of stuff.

I mean, you know, the amount of supplements I take is kind of ridiculous. I’ve cut back. And I eat healthy most of the time.

But you know, like you said, there’s a few things over the years that I have said, that really works. And you know, if I hadn’t met you personally, I might not have, you know, gone this extra step because oh, I’ve got one of those and, you know, I feel better. But yours, and this is looking back, I’m being honest.

It’s like within those three, four minutes, you’re just talking to me and, you know, I’ve got one. But the whole time my head is doing this, my body’s going, oh, man. Yeah, yeah.

It’s like, the hardest thing to do is to explain to someone who already has a sauna, that this is different. Yeah, it’s like, you know, it’s an energy medicine device. It’s a love machine.

It’s a love machine. We’ll leave it there. Phil, appreciate your time.

Appreciate getting to know you. I’m sure we’ll continue to have a relationship. We’ll get this edited and get it out to Morning Report subscribers and hope it boosts your business.

And just really feel blessed that we got to meet at the Red Pill Expo. And I’m sure if we’re at the next one, I’ll say hi. And I do get to Vegas.

I’ll be down there in April. So I’ll give you a heads up. Maybe we can go have something healthy to eat together or something.

Sounds great. It’s been great. And it’s been an honor to meet you.

And it was exciting to meet you at the Red Pill. And it’s beautiful to continue our friendship. And it’s, you know, I’m honored to be a friend of yours.

Well, thank you, Phil. Take care. Thanks, folks.

We’ll be back. Bye for now.