They raise the frequency of humanity completely. So I think what’s really exciting, he has a history since the early 70s in this field, and we have a lot to learn. So thank you so much.

Mr. Philip Wilson, come on up. Thank you. We are so excited you are here.

Thank you, thank you. Hello. You can hear me good here? OK.

OK. So I have given many, many talks on the Relax Sauna and on foreign ray energy. And I am, it’s not, it’s sort of like, I call it coming out of my spiritual closet.

I usually don’t talk about spiritual awareness when I go to doctor’s conferences and other conferences where I speak. But for 15 years I have been using the Relax Sauna. Oh, and you’re going in right now.

Yeah, we’re going to put about five or six or ten of you in for five minute sessions while I’m giving the talk. And that’s what I have my assistants for. So, I don’t have to get off the stage to put you in.

Now I didn’t see how many, I didn’t see how many people are new to the Conscious Life Expo and how many people are new to foreign red ray energy. OK. But you all know about saunas.

OK. You know about saunas, OK. There’s a doctor, Bill Akpinar.

He happens to be a medical doctor, a Chinese medical doctor, a holistic dentist, and a Qigong master, and an acupuncturist. And he was gifted the Relax Sauna by one of his patients who had a relative who had cancer, not have cancer anymore. As a matter of fact, Dr. Bill Akpenar was voted the best cancer doctor in New York City in 2007.

He’s holistic. He had to create some kind of university and something else so that he could treat. He does very, very innovative treatments.

He’s a great man. And he was the guest speaker about three, four years ago in Costa Mesa for a detox conference. And he spoke about foreign red saunas.

And he mentioned the Relax Sauna as the one that he uses. So he had had another sauna that he was using for a number of years. And then when he was gifted the Relax Sauna, he didn’t think anything of it because I have a sauna.

You know, a sauna is a sauna is a sauna. Well, not true. Every sauna has a different kind of technology.

And it’s the technology that makes a sauna wonderful, not the wood, not the outside, but it’s the energy coming out of the emitters of the specific frequency because it’s all vibrational energy. I know, I think Richard Gerbe came out with a book called Vibrational Medicine way back. And I know Dr. Cousins talked a lot about vibrational energy back about 20, 30 years ago.

Dr. Lieberman is speaking at this conference. And he brought out a book called Light Therapy, Medicine of the Future. And when I first saw the book and perused it and read parts of it, I just didn’t realize that light energy is not just color therapy.

It’s all the invisible frequencies that we can’t see. So, at any rate, Dr. Bill Akpinar did a study of sweating. And one of my favorite quotes in this book is he quotes Hippocrates.

And Hippocrates says something like, there’s many translations of it, but find me a way to create sweat and I will cure disease because sweating gets rid of the toxins. And it turns out, there’s a beautiful video on YouTube. It says far-infrared ray versus near-infrared.

And it shows the far-infrared ray going in and going through the skin, through the next layer, and then going into the next layer where the water cells are hanging out. And all of a sudden, the water cells start pulsating. And then they start rising.

And then you’ve got these toxins in the other layer. And the water brings the toxins out of the body. See? And when I first had my first out-of-body experience back in 1970 in February, I graduated Indiana University.

I had a degree in mathematics. I was pretty smart. I actually had an honors degree in mathematics.

But I didn’t realize that after that experience, I didn’t realize that my whole being was different. But I didn’t realize. It took me about a year and a half to figure out what happened.

Because I lost interest in math and got super fascinated by creativity, which I’d always been, but also by communication. I just love, I mean, to me, my greatest joy, and in doing this right now, I am honing in on my skills. I am improving my communication skills this very moment.

And when I remember, you know, studying everything spiritual in the last 30, 40 years, especially in the early 70s, when I didn’t know what the heck was going on. But the original definition of sin was missing the mark. So I like to tell people how I help my employees.

By improving their aim, okay, you’re gonna improve your mark, right? So improving their aim and their skills of folding papers, sorting papers, and whatever they do at the office, I’m helping them absolve their sins. Because I’m improving their aim. And I thought that was funny.

Just because it’s like, there is no wrong. There is no right. You just do what you do.

If you, quote, make a mistake, it’s not really a mistake because by making a mistake, you get led into a world and you learn certain things. And then you look after the fact. You see that you didn’t make a mistake.

You just thought you did. But you were guided into this so you could become aware. And once you’re aware, it doesn’t matter.

The main thing is you’re there. And, you know, and so, you know, taking that to another level, even recently I’ve learned that drudgery is not something I enjoy doing. I think the mark of a, to measure a person’s spiritual unfoldment is what do you do in the ten minutes that happens when you miss a turn on the freeway and you have to drive ten minutes out of your way to get back.

How do you spend that time? Now, you know, I used to spend that time hurrying because I couldn’t wait to get back to start over. Meanwhile, I missed ten minutes of my life. But, you know, you just do the best you can to know that you can’t undo what you did and just get back in the moment, enjoy the moment.

And you’ll have all these realizations and all this fun, and when you get back to there, there you are. In other words, you sort of like, you want time and space to disappear. So when you get into the Relax Sauna, time and space sort of disappear.

When Dr. Akpinar, he mentions in his book, when he’s halfway through writing it, maybe in the first third of the book, he’s tired, so he takes a break, and he says, I come back from doing the sauna for twenty, thirty minutes, I feel mentally clear, and I feel spiritually attuned in. I said, you know, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying for years. When I go into the Relax Sauna every morning, I drink water, I get in, and a lot of times when I’m meditating, I’ve been, you know, meditation is sort of like a misnomer.

It’s really contemplating, and it’s like, according to the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, there’s concentration, meditation, and then contemplation. And contemplation is sort of like when you pinpoint something, after you’re in a calm state, you meditate to get to that place where you’re centered and grounded, and that’s what the Relax Sauna does more than anything. It gets you into that space, and once you’re there, then you pinpoint something, and you wait for the secrets to unfold.

And in the book, the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, he says, perfect contemplation on the moon, and the secrets of the moon will be revealed to you. And everything in life is like that. The moon, the sun, you know, your daily communication, being in the Relax Sauna, you know, and I’ve spent 15 years being in that sauna.

I have put over 150,000 people doing 30 shows a year demonstrating the Relax Sauna for 14 years. So I have seen 20,000 minor or major miracles of people going in there and saying, oh my God, the pain I had in my neck for the last 17 months, it’s gone in seven minutes. We had a man today, you know, his friend was in the sauna, and then he said, well, I have back pain.

I said, well, go on in. He said, I said, what’s your level of back pain? You know, from a one to a ten. It’s about an eight, maybe a seven.

And I said, I can get it down to a three or a four in five minutes. And people, you know, they just gloss over that when I say that. And he said, sure enough, down to a three.

I said, you come back a half hour later, because we don’t want you to sweat here, because after about eight minutes, you start sweating. You can go in for eight minutes now, go back, come back half an hour later and do another eight minutes. And I said, you’ll get it down to a one or maybe even a zero.

And I have seen miracle after miracle. We have actually 650 video testimonies on YouTube talking about, on many different levels. Now, if you got this, the yellow brochure, the golden brochure, did you all get that? Okay.

Well, anyway, the second quote is from a lady who got in the sauna at our store. We have a little store in Columbus, Ohio. It’s like a health food store.

We have massage tools and supplements and stuff like that. No food, except raw food snacks, because I’m into raw foods. But it’s like she just went on for six or seven minutes.

And I’ve had other people do this. They just, I feel hugged by my grandma. I feel, you know, and in Taiwan they say it’s like being in the presence of the Qigong master.

Now, what does it mean to be in the presence of a Qigong master? Well, it’s like, in India they would say it’s like being in the presence of a guru. And I translate into American English and I say, this is the best we could do to get a step-down version of divine love in a box. In other words, you can feel a presence in there.

And it’s like the parasympathetic nervous system gets activated and it’s balanced where the sympathetic slows down. And so people, you know, I’ve had people come out and say, it’s just weird. I feel relaxed and energized at the same time.

Yeah, you got it. You got it. That’s what it does.

And in amassing 650 testimonies, if I’ve done, what, 400 shows in a year, I mean not in a year, but in 14 years, I’ve got a lot of comments. So we have people with Lyme disease who say a year later, I don’t have any symptoms anymore. A naturopathic doctor talked about his wife was able to get 75% better from her Lyme.

And then her Lyme literate doctor said, do a foreign Fred sauna. So the naturopathic doctor had seen me around, he got one, and boom, she was at 95% and basically had her life back. And we have a lot of reports like that.

It’s very, it’s cool. Are you enjoying that? Is it still on? I have to shut it off. No, what you do is you unzip the zipper like three, four inches.

See? Because you get to control the temperature. I don’t know what to do. Yeah, right.

It’s on fire. Right. And then.

It’s so relaxing. Relaxing. Yeah.

Anything else? Well, I’m starting to sweat a bit, but yeah, should I start here? Yeah. Is that my turn? Yes. Yes.

Yes. We did an interview with a testimonial in San Francisco about six, seven years ago with a lady named Katie, and she says she has a friend who’s intuitive, and she said, your body really loves that sauna. Yeah, I know.

I mean, we’re talking about sitting in here and meditating and I’ve been dying. Yeah. All that.

All right. Someone else can come. So whoever wants to, you know, okay.

Good. You haven’t been in it yet, have you? Okay. This will be a treat.

A lot of times, you know, people are surprised. They have no clue. They have no clue how good it’s going to feel.

And then when they go in and they feel that good, they say, oh my gosh, what is this? And then I have to explain to them, you know, don’t get a cheaper sauna because if you do, you’ll be disappointed because it won’t work the same. But, you know, that’s just part of communicating, you know, to everyone, you know, the beauty of it. We had one lady at a San Francisco green show.

She got, she wanted to get the Relax Sauna, but she couldn’t afford it. And so, even though we do payment plans, however, she ended up ordering one of those cheap saunas. And then they had a radiator in there to make it hotter because it was not Far Infrared Ray.

And she went ahead and got that and she did not like it. She said it burnt her adrenals. It was too harsh.

And she ended up returning it and then getting the Relax Sauna and said, oh my gosh, soft, warm, loving, light. Big, big difference. You know, it’s like, I’d be rich if I had a dollar for every person, for every, usually women, but occasionally men will say it, I feel like I’ve been hugged by my grandma.

That’s one of the most common comments when people go into this sauna. It’s really funny. You know, just to get people’s reactions.

And you know, a lot of people aren’t real open and a lot of people are. And it’s just, it’s fun to me, I mean, to me this is fun, turning people onto a product that’s going to improve the quality of their life and help tune them in to that which they are, is what I like to say. Because that’s what it does for me.

You know, like I’ve been meditating, doing spiritual exercises, contemplating, whatever, since about 1970. I just started doing it because I didn’t have anything else I wanted to do. And then later on I learned certain techniques to get better at it.

But a lot of times it would take me five or ten or fifteen or twenty minutes to get to that space where you feel totally relaxed and tuned in. And sometimes, it takes a while, but if I get into the Relax Sauna, it’ll cut that time in half. Sometimes a third, sometimes a fourth.

And it’s really nice to have. It really is a very useful tool. Now Far and Fred Energy has been popular for the last 60 years or so.

And it was basically introduced to the world by Dr. Sherry Rogers. And she wrote a book called Detoxify or Die. And that’s this book here.

And Dr. Sherry Rogers is a medical doctor. And she treated people with chemical sensitivity and all sorts of ailments. And people who were, would come to her after they went to all the other doctors and said, there’s nothing we know how to do to help you.

And she used Far and Fred saunas and performed miracles. And this book, Detoxify or Die, is a testament to the benefits that Far and Fred saunas can do. Now I’ve really never described or defined what Far and Fred Ray Energy is.

And so I am, I’m not going from 1 to 2 to 3 to 10. I’m going from wherever it, wherever it is coming from. And sometimes I, I have fun watching how everything gets said.

But, you know, usually when I give a talk on the Far Infrared Energy, I start with what it is and stuff like that. Now here it is, Chapter 3, and I’m telling you what Far and Fred Ray Energy is. Basically, we as human beings are Far and Fred beings.

We generate Far Infrared light. You know how people say I’m a spiritual being in a physical body? We are beings of light and we shine light. And the light we shine, being in a physical body, it’s all pretty much the same like dogs.

Have you ever heard of a three-dog night? It’s, besides being a band, a three-dog night is when it’s so cold in Alaska or northern Canada that you need three dogs to lie on top of you at night generating Far and Fred Ray Energy to keep you warm. See, when you hug someone, you experience their Far and Fred Ray Energy and they experience yours. That’s the Far Infrared Ray Energy.

On a cold day, when you’ve got a winter coat on and the sun is hot, you close your eyes and you feel the warmth of your sun go through your whole body. That’s Far and Fred Ray being absorbed. Far and Fred Ray Energy is responsible for photosynthesis in plants.

When you have preemies, after they’re born early, the babies, they’re generated. There’s a Far and Fred light that goes in their thing and that helps them develop. Now what’s really sad is when they get back to normal, they quit doing the Far and Fred light.

How silly. As a matter of fact, why they don’t do Far Infrared lights for all babies all the time is part of the ails of this society. This society is not tuned in.

But being in the Relax Sauna, I say, and this is the whole thing of my talk, it will help you tune in to that which you are. And that’s a secret because when you tune in to that which you are and you get in harmony, then when stress comes at you, you can nip it in the bud and not be stressed. The whole key, and there are many whole keys, but this is one whole key, is acceptance.

Understanding comes after the fact. When you get guided to do something and you say, I don’t know if this is going against everything I’ve ever been taught or everything, and you just do it anyway, then later on you understand why. Because until you accept something, you cannot understand it.

A mother wants to understand her daughter. The daughter’s a prostitute. The daughter’s a heroin addict.

Oh, I wish I could understand my daughter. No way in hell. Because you don’t accept your daughter’s right to have her experiences.

But if you would accept her and say, what does it feel like when, and said, oh, mom, it was terrible, whatever, and then the daughter invites the mom into her world and then she can understand. So acceptance, only with acceptance can you have understanding. And non-resistant thought expands the heart center.

That means when you resist something, and sometimes people go into the sauna. One lady had breast cancer and didn’t know it. And she had all this resistance in her breast being in the sauna the first time.

Then the doctor said, then they did some discoveries and found out she had breast cancer. They actually used thermography to detect breast cancer. It’s a whole lot better than mammograms, which actually are cancer-causing, strangely enough.

Again, did you ever read Superman comics when you were a kid? You know, remember the part where it said bizarro world? Okay, we are living in a bizarro world where everything is backwards. They call disease care health care. They call death insurance life insurance.

I mean, it’s just marketing ploys all over the place. So, you know, it’s just interesting to be aware and see. And being aware comes from being tuned in.

It’s a whole process of life. And the more you enjoy every moment, the more, you know, again, when you enjoy every moment, it’s because you’re accepting it. And it’s like, I think I mentioned something about drudgery.

I would walk down from my second floor bedroom downstairs and say, oops, I forgot something. Now, way back as a kid, I would drudgingly go upstairs. Now I switch into exercise mode and say, okay, I’ll have a half minute of exercise and I’ll run up the stairs and get it.

And see, anytime you do anything with drudgery, that means you’re refusing to do it with your all. And therefore, you’re double-sided. You’re doing it and not doing it.

And that only creates stress. And I was noticed in the other day. See, have you ever heard of EMF? Okay.

They’re, oh my gosh, I found out the new name in the 21st century for the devil. It’s EMF. It’s like people are scared stiff.

You mention EMF and they shiver. Does that have EMF? So just the fear of EMF is 10 times worse. It causes more stress than EMF, even from the cell phones, let alone.

Now, I’ve watched a whole bunch of interviews on famous doctors being interviewed about EMF. They mention cell phones, cell phone towers, Wi-Fi, microwave ovens, and smart meters. They never mention electric massage tools.

They never mention juicers. They never mention Vitamix blenders. They never mention vacuum cleaners.

But sometimes, they mention saunas because it’s a fear tactic. It’s like, for example, that particular sauna has no electricity anywhere but near the radiator because it uses the tent as a mirror. All the other saunas or most of the other saunas, they have to have because cats lie in the sun, not in the shade because if you lie in the sun, you can get the Fahrenheit energy.

If the sun is here and I’m here, I’m not getting any. This company, instead of having a $10,000 sauna or an $8,000 sauna, they have the tent is coated with silver which acts as a mirror because Fahrenheit light, they don’t teach you this in eighth grade, but I think they ought to. Fahrenheit light goes through clothes.

Fahrenheit light, even though it’s invisible, is reflected by a mirror. Fahrenheit ray is a light and therefore it goes at the speed of light which is about 186,000 miles a second. You have those radiators in there on the bottom and if they’re one degree off, it’s going to go up and at 186,000 miles a second within half a second, you’re going to be in the middle of an invisible light box.

It’s very bright. The brightness of this sauna is about 10 times brighter than the $200 cheap saunas that you find that made in China that are wonderful. If you can’t afford one of these, they really are nice.

I had one for a year and I loved it, but if you’ve never had a car and you get a car that goes 30 miles an hour and you’ve only been driving a bicycle, you’re going to love it until you find a car that goes 85 miles an hour. It’s just everything is relative. Everything is relative.

Everything is good. There’s a lot of machines out there. They do a little bit of good, but a lot of people, they have Lyme disease.

There’s a lady, you know, who had Lyme disease and she has neuropathy in her fingers and her toes. She doesn’t have any feeling there. She’s got a little portable sauna she’s had for a year.

She goes in it for an hour and she likes it. She got in the Relax Sauna at a Lyme conference about three months ago and for the first time in two and a half years, she had feeling in her hands and her toes. 12 minutes.

So that’s the difference between, and we have had incredible, incredible, I’ve experienced second hand people with Lyme disease or people with Raynaud’s, with what I just said, neuropathy, and so many individuals with so many different situations and problems and a lot of them are on YouTube. You know, if you just do, now we’re going to get, we’re going to interview this young lady. How was that? Did you expect it to be like that? Oh, it was nice.

I’m giving you one. She did 10 minutes. Did you have pain before you went in? Yeah.

What was your level of pain? Oh, it was like, it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was. And what’s it now? I don’t feel no pain. You know, I feel like I’m Oral Roberts.

Did you ever remember when I was a kid? You don’t feel no pain. Can I go next? Sure. Yes, please.

Yes, yes. And so, what I’m here to do is educate you about, thank you very much, about the physical, physical effects, the emotional, the mental, and the spiritual effects of foreign Fred Saunas in general and specifically of the magic of the Relax Sauna because their technology was an aha. Just like I was introduced and they said I had an out-of-body experience in 1970, on February 1st, I believe, or something like that.

I had a realization that I was very left-brained and that I needed to get involved with music, art, and dance to dig myself out of the hole that I had dug myself into. A year and a half later, I looked back at the same experience and I saw that these three beings, or two beings, I don’t remember right now, but they took me out of my body and they showed me the overhang of about six indoor tennis courts and they had a whole group of people dancing, a whole group of people doing music, and a whole group of people doing art. Not a whole, like two or three in each section.

And they said, this is what you need to do, Phil, because you are so left-brained, you need to feel. You know, they didn’t say that, but I had the realization. And then later on, I read the book Narcissus and Goldman by Herman Hess, and he’s just one of my favorite authors from way back.

And he was very popular in the early 70s. He wrote Siddhartha. He wrote Steppenwolf.

And those are the famous ones that he wrote. Another one is Magister Ludi or Damien. But at any rate, the book Narcissus and Goldman is all about feeling and thinking.

And to me, it was like, I was a thinker who was becoming a feeler. And it was exciting, because that’s the balancing. And the parasympathetic system in your body stands for feeling.

And the sympathetic is, you know, flight.